09:47:33	 From  Hilary Frazer : Hello from Hilary
09:49:24	 From  Hilary Frazer : Good to see friendly faces.  Looking forward to joining the conversation in about 15 minutes' time.  H
09:49:52	 From  Paul Tolchinsky : hi Hilary, good to see
09:55:21	 From  Eddie Moore : Welcome everyone, we will be starting in 5 minutes
10:02:13	 From  Paul Tolchinsky : Hello everyone
10:27:41	 From  Tanvi Mody : I could not agree more with the point Jeff makes... practices leaders learned a few decades ago need to be unlearned and learn new management practices. Great piece by BCG recently - https://www.bcg.com/en-us/publications/2018/bringing-managers-back-to-work.aspx
10:42:09	 From  Paul Tolchinsky : Steve Denning talks lately about a management tansformation, a revolution already begun
10:48:32	 From  Hilary Frazer : Thoughts welcome - are we implying there is an OD us and them.  Agreed that we need bridges or even broader knowledge bases and even solutions across professional boundaries
10:49:27	 From  Paul Tolchinsky : i think it is all us, but with different access points and points of view, we need to integrate and build
10:52:22	 From  Tanvi Mody : Not having come from OD and being new and curious about this practice - what has unified OD practitioners in the past and what can unify those that are stumbling in to this practice going forward?
10:54:27	 From  Paul Tolchinsky : Light sabre yes!
10:54:45	 From  Craig McGee : Tanvi…..when I first started org design, there was a unifying disciple called “socio-technical systems”  based on the research/practices of Emery, Trist Cherns, etc.  A lot of that thinking still exists in org design today, but is not as recognized as such.
10:55:35	 From  Tanvi Mody : thank you for sharing that background
10:56:38	 From  Paul Tolchinsky : Agree Craig, we had a common underying set of principles and practices, action learning and actio research
10:59:31	 From  Joe Kopetsky : yes, Paul = more do
10:59:54	 From  Joe Kopetsky : that is all I have been thinking about back here (call me lurkig Joe)

11:00:07	 From  Michael Gold : Next ODF Community Conversation:
Thursday, January 24th, 11:30 am - 12:30 pm EST, US
Ron Carucci, Partner, Navalent
Designing Systems of Integrity

Closing thoughts from the conversation:
11:00:45	 From  Eddie Moore : Integration with other frameworks for org design
11:00:54	 From  Michael Gold : conversations are the starting point for change
11:00:58	 From  Joe Kopetsky : it is about a Tipping Point, it is about knowledge,but more about understanding (Gladwell)
11:01:00	 From  Craig McGee : Organizations are better today, but have we really contributed to that?
11:01:21	 From  Paul Tolchinsky : build more momentum!
11:01:29	 From  Ana Cocean : We need to follow up the conversations we have 
11:01:37	 From  Tanvi Mody : Understanding the core principles of OD = socio-technical systems and apply 
11:02:00	 From  Joe Kopetsky : We need to focus more on results in order to  get people to understand the value here

11:01:36	 From  Craig McGee : Yes, Paul, thank you!!!!  And great seeing you.  Enjoy the holidays.
11:02:08	 From  Jeff Tritt : I want to look at how a unifying idea of beneficial attraction can better inform all of this. Love that thought.
11:02:10	 From  Tanvi Mody : thank you!
11:03:44	 From  Robert Beverley : Need to build momentum behind ODF through improved translation of the science